Subject	IMHO older style injectors are a dead end. There has been
Posted by	Bernie (NoVA) on August 21, 2008 at 4:02 PM
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In Reply To	Need advice on if I should upgrade to new style injectors or posted by bt300z32 on August 21, 2008 at 03:40 PM
Message	plenty of posts here on that topic. I've done far too many injector jobs in the past few years not to notice a dramatic upturn in their failures. My simple advice: 1. ALWAYS do the switched voltage mod. EVERYONE should do it. Do not wait. 2. I would advise never style injectors and a suitable fuel rail/adapter kit. Whatever path is cheapest and fits your needs. I have installed 300Degree rails, Deatschwerks conversions and standard machined lower plenum - rail conversions. They all work, they all have different + and -, but in the end no matter which path you pick you're 100% better off then putting money into old style injectors. In the words of Hans & Frans - listen to me now and believe me later. HI Overdrive Water Pump Pullies Are Here! Bernie Bilski berniebilski@cox.net 1995 Nissan 300ZX TwinTurbo in Cobalt Green 1997 Nissan 240SX SE in Ultra Red (some assembly required) 1995 Nissan Pick-Up XE in Super Black ZCCNV #390 ~ ECZA #368 Need INSTALLS, DIAGNOSTICS, SERVICE or PARTS in the NoVA/DC/MD area? Please email me or check out my current inventory.
Follow Ups	Need advice on if I should upgrade to new style injectors or - bt300z32 15:40:06 08/21/08 Re: Need advice on if I should upgrade to new style injectors or - 300ZXTT(OH) 15:44:16 08/21/08 Why get all 6 injectors? - eriksu9 15:50:52 08/21/08 Whatever. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 15:55:26 08/21/08 Also def do the power supply cutoff at the ecu. - eriksu9 15:58:48 08/21/08 This does nothing - BobbyT 01:48:42 08/22/08 Oh Wait...You have an na..Just looked at your profile - eriksu9 15:59:45 08/21/08 are you done? (n/m) - Tennyson (ATL) 16:03:11 08/21/08 he's just gettin warmed up (n/m) - Guapo 16:13:07 08/21/08 Yes I am soo wrong.. - eriksu9 07:37:08 08/22/08 I've tested all passenger side injectors. - bt300z32 20:23:31 08/21/08 Indeed. It's best to just ignore him. Always. (n/m) - Guapo 20:30:09 08/21/08 There is that EXTREMELY RARE occasion where he has a clue - BigTDogg (MA) 21:28:50 08/21/08 2nd, about the ignoring part, not about having a clue =) (n/m) - ZEngineer 22:27:31 08/21/08 That is true. It is a matter of time. - eriksu9 07:50:16 08/22/08 It's called "opportunity cost"... - Bernie (NoVA) 10:54:14 08/22/08 I think you are missing the point. - eriksu9 12:20:40 08/22/08 No he's not - Bernie is speaking from experience. - TT XTZ 14:01:09 08/22/08 If that is the case, Than I agree totally. - eriksu9 14:52:42 08/22/08 I don't think the time is more likey every 10 weeks in a lot - Bernie (NoVA) 15:16:42 08/22/08 That is what I figured but every 10 wks is still a hell - eriksu9 15:23:10 08/22/08 Sure. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 15:41:18 08/22/08 Take it from me... - Z DNA 10:39:30 08/22/08 Re: Need advice on if I should upgrade to new style injector (n/m) - jdubs 15:51:09 08/21/08 Most likely they are all going there - jdubs 15:57:43 08/21/08 I am not saying do the plenum pull everytime. - eriksu9 12:15:03 08/22/08 IMHO older style injectors are a dead end. There has been - Bernie (NoVA) 16:02:16 08/21/08 '95 EFI harnesses automatically switch the injectors, no? (n/m) - vorpalZ 16:19:25 08/21/08 Correct. They are the only harness that does. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 16:28:08 08/21/08 Go with the Newer style - Jason300zxTT 17:20:34 08/21/08 also, isn't it "Hear Me Later"? (n/m) - Nick(CT) 17:32:11 08/21/08 what is the switched voltage mod? - CWRaab(philly) 17:38:08 08/21/08 Click on "FAQ" > "Auto-FAQ" - TTFairladyZ 17:41:57 08/21/08 thanks, missed it on my first pass. (n/m) - CWRaab(philly) 17:46:15 08/21/08 Is the voltage mod only necessary - Shift_(ATL) 17:39:33 08/21/08 I do it for both - the 95 EFI harness uses new style - Bernie (NoVA) 17:44:09 08/21/08 Cool.. thank you; added to my to-do list while plenum is off (n/m) - Shift_(ATL) 23:04:58 08/21/08 Thanks. Makes sense. So what would be the cheapest route - bt300z32 20:29:53 08/21/08 Even on an NA? I trust what you are saying but - eriksu9 07:55:33 08/22/08 Yes even on a NA. Price points vary and your values are not - Bernie (NoVA) 08:03:01 08/22/08 How much do you do that job for you are talking about - eriksu9 08:06:24 08/22/08 I laid out 3 different options for moving to new style - Bernie (NoVA) 08:15:31 08/22/08 It can only be done under $1000k if they do the work - eriksu9 08:40:02 08/22/08 What does NA/TT have to do with it? - Barry (NJ) 09:04:34 08/22/08 TT's are worth much more than a NA. Thats why. - eriksu9 10:11:28 08/22/08 Your logic is flawed. TT or NA doesn't matter 1 bit. - Bernie (NoVA) 10:34:41 08/22/08 You have me wrong here. - eriksu9 12:32:58 08/22/08 I'd go with new style, and FWIW... - Barry (NJ) 16:14:13 08/21/08 definitely new style. - AntiHero 16:31:18 08/21/08 3rd. Their 740's and adapter kit is working great for me (n/m) - pearlyellowtt 17:30:03 08/21/08 I've been seeing post on 'the other' forum about failures - SilverTwin(OH) 17:50:06 08/21/08 Link to post about failures - SilverTwin(OH) 17:52:48 08/21/08 did you miss the part about... - AntiHero 22:41:09 08/21/08 did you miss the part about... - Guapo 22:57:13 08/21/08 yay, i love pulling my plenum, ordering a gasket, - ali300zx 01:05:15 08/22/08 how do you guys still love nismo? - AntiHero 08:31:48 08/22/08 pretty much everything with a pintle started going south - Guapo 10:16:31 08/22/08 I concur - aliaZ 22:09:04 08/22/08 Re: how do you guys still love nismo? - ali300zx 10:33:43 08/22/08 1st of all you are complete misinformed. - Bernie (NoVA) 10:45:42 08/22/08 did you miss the part about... - SilverTwin(OH) 08:15:34 08/22/08 There were a couple of people there saying that and a - na300zx (OH) 10:12:31 08/22/08 I know that feeling... - Shift_(ATL) 17:45:09 08/21/08 Re: Need advice on if I should upgrade to new style injectors or - ouikikazz 18:24:48 08/21/08 Border injectors? - The Hawk 19:39:42 08/21/08 Like the new style Nissan injectors, they are pintel-less (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 06:26:40 08/22/08 I found out yesterday that #5 in my car is out. - not4resaleZ 19:58:10 08/21/08 Plenum must be removed to replace rail. After that you can - Bernie (NoVA) 06:27:50 08/22/08 Lucky you, only having to replace them for one car. - V.S. 22:36:56 08/21/08 With over 320,000 miles in my ZX...I "dremel" - Fly-Surf 07:13:26 08/22/08 Upgrade for sure. (n/m) - apudapus 11:57:52 08/22/08
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